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is coming from. >> let's to our panel. joe welsh. with me in new york, jonathan alter, columnist for "the bloomberg view," msnbc political analyst. new book "center holds obama and his enemies" is out june 4th. some believe the boston marathon bombing means de facto we should pause, slow down the process of immigration reform. john mccain calls that ludicrous. what do you think? >> i'm with john mccain on this one. i mean, this is almost pathetic kind of excuse. what does it have to do with a mexican living in the united states who has done everything right and wants their kids to be able to get ahead in american life? what is this incident in boston have to do -- >> the argument is these are two individuals who emigrated from dagestan, from chechnya, came here, and ended up wreaking havoc. >> so what the critics don't get is that what the immigration bill would do, if you actually look at where they are in their preparation of it, is it would strengthen our immigration laws and make it harder for bad guys to get in by modernizing our immigration system. so people who say that, you know,
and jonathan capehart, political writer for "washington post" and msnbc contributor. luke, are they going to have the votes in the end or not? >> most likely not. 60 is a very steep hill for this. the reason why, a lot of those republican senators who voted for this to move forward on cloture have now backtracked. what's interesting, though, i think that's really happened here is two things. everyone's attention shifted to boston, to the pr push that the gun control lobby that they would have is not the same. the newtown families aren't registers as much today as they would have had that tragedy in boston not occurred. number two, boehner in the house put out a pretty declarative statement last week. we're going to water down whatever comes out of the senate. if you're a republican senator, if you're a red state democrat, why go out on a limb for this when the house is probably going to sit on it? >> harry reid, i mean, he knows when he's got the votes and when he doesn't. why would he proceed with this? i mean, i wonder, is that part of the pr strategy? put it on the floor, let it fail a
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